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  • ScotcH
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    Re: Wheel spacers and/or wheel adapters. Are they free?

    Originally posted by CobraStang View Post
    10mm would be a lot for a slip on spacer. I would not suggest anything over 6mm (1/4"). Are there many vehicles that even have a hub that's >10mm?
    I run 15mm spacers on my car ... as do most BMW club racers. Pretty common setup. The spacer is hub centric, and has a hub machined into the wheel side as well. I also run 90mm studs

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  • Slowpoke
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    I didn't really want to go to longer studs on all wheels, though it would have worked out to about the same price. So T&N Dynamic machined the bolt holes slightly wider in my wheels so that I could use Toyota-style lugs that "countersink" (Thanks for the tip, Pete! Pete @ Marcor can get these for you.) Cost about $75 a set of four wheels IIRC.

    Gives you about three extra turns of engagement vs. standard lugs whose threads stop at the cones.

    T N Dynamic
    Machining & Engineering Co.
    1104 Fewster Drive #20
    Mississauga, ON
    L4W 2V7
    (905)625-9745

    (Near Dixie and Eglinton in Mississauga)

    But if it's a track car only, go for studs!

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  • DECH_92
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    For 1/4 to 3/8 inch spacer--- hub-centric ones, with the correct bolt pattern .. you need 6 complete turns of the nut for correct mounting. or you will need longer studs.
    Last edited by DECH_92; 02-23-2007, 09:14 AM.

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  • CobraStang
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    Re: Wheel spacers and/or wheel adapters. Are they free?

    10mm would be a lot for a slip on spacer. I would not suggest anything over 6mm (1/4"). Are there many vehicles that even have a hub that's >10mm?

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  • ScotcH
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    Originally posted by thgear View Post
    i think thats hardly necessary for the typical 3-10mm spacers

    now if were talkinga bout 20-30mm that would be different.
    Agreed. Most smaller spacers can't be bolted. However, try at least to use hub-centric ones, with the correct bolt pattern ... not those generic ones with the giant holes that fit all cars

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  • thgear
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    Originally posted by Chuck91GT View Post
    For additional safety reasons, the spacer should be of the type where it is bolted directly to the hub and then the wheel to the spacer. Both sets of nuts are then torqued to the their specified ratings.
    i think thats hardly necessary for the typical 3-10mm spacers

    now if were talkinga bout 20-30mm that would be different.

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  • Chuck Atkins
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    Originally posted by Dave Barker View Post
    I have just has a conversation with our Chief Scrutineer who wants to make it perfectly clear that all drivers hoping to use wheel spacers need to make sure their studs are of an appropriate length i.e they stick out beyond the end of the threaded portion of their wheel nuts. A car that does not have appropriate length studs for the spacers used will not be allowed to run for obvious safety reasons.
    For additional safety reasons, the spacer should be of the type where it is bolted directly to the hub and then the wheel to the spacer. Both sets of nuts are then torqued to the their specified ratings.

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  • Dave Barker
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    I have just has a conversation with our Chief Scrutineer who wants to make it perfectly clear that all drivers hoping to use wheel spacers need to make sure their studs are of an appropriate length i.e they stick out beyond the end of the threaded portion of their wheel nuts. A car that does not have appropriate length studs for the spacers used will not be allowed to run for obvious safety reasons.

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  • Dave Barker
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    Originally posted by MazdaMatt View Post
    Uh... isn't that contradicting? by changing offset i can change my track width, no?

    Seems like a suitable thread to ask:

    Has anybody ever used spacers and can post qualitative or quantitative reviews? prices?
    You can use wheels that are wide enough to place the tire at the fender's edge (some cars come that way) or you can use spacers to widen the track to that same level. We are prepared to live with that. OTOH if you go further than the fender, you have to pay PIPs or if you widen the fender to cover your new widened track you have to pay PIPS. It is the same result in the end although likely better aero with the widened fenders.

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  • thgear
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    Re: Wheel spacers and/or wheel adapters. Are they free?

    word of caution

    generaly a wrong offset wheel for your car either by defult or through use of spacers will destroy your wheel bearings at an exponential rate relative to OEM longevity....


    having said that, H&R makes decent spacers.

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  • MazdaMatt
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    Originally posted by Dave Barker View Post
    We don't care about the rims but we do care about the car's track width.
    Uh... isn't that contradicting? by changing offset i can change my track width, no?

    Seems like a suitable thread to ask:

    Has anybody ever used spacers and can post qualitative or quantitative reviews? prices?

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  • Dave Barker
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    Originally posted by craig View Post
    Your second sentence seems to contradict your first?
    You can have 12" diameter rims or 22" diameter rims. You can have 5" wide rims or 12" wide rims, we don't care just as long as they don't stick out beyond the fender in which case you will incur pips.

    We don't care about the rims but we do care about the car's track width.

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  • ScotcH
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    Originally posted by craig View Post
    Your second sentence seems to contradict your first?
    I think Dave meant "Why not" .... Yes, they are free.

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  • craig
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    Re: Wheel spacers and/or wheel adapters. Are they free?

    Your second sentence seems to contradict your first?

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  • Dave Barker
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    Off hand Craig, I can't see why considering that we have no limits on wheels. Just remember to take the PIPs if they protrude beyond the fender (or take the PIPs for fender mods to cover your new wider track)

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