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  • ScotcH
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    You get reruns when you get a yellow flag, or timing feels that you were held up somehow (even if no flag is thrown). I assure you noone got extra laps because they bought us beer the previous night.

    As for the Saturday run group order, it was NOT changed, and that is perhaps the issue the Z group has. Personally, I feel it was the right decision ... the run order was posted, and the organizer stuck to it, instead of changing at the last minute. If it HAD changed, maybe the X or Y group would be the ones complaining, and saying "why was the order changed from what was posted?"

    Saturday was a crappy day ... no doubt about it. It was however, no worse than our DDT event, where weather also wrecked havoc with our runs. It happens ... not much we can do about it. Sunday was a great day on the other hand, and I think everyone had a great time.

    The tech inspections (I assume you mean impound) were simply a spot check of car classifications, and were performed by me personally. I don't think anything unfair was done here ... most cars checked were fine, and others that were not were cleared up. if there was an issue with this, I'd like to know what it was.

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  • thgear
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    Carl, i dont understand the point of your initial post, and the tone of your latest post

    even though i wasnt at this years nationals, i can say with confidence that the event ran like any other event.

    with the exception of that one time the timing equipment was left at the CASC office, all of the events i have ever been to, including the one that i organized myself, had on average the same amount of screwups and suprises, yet everyone pulled together and had a great event.

    unless you are trying to voice the complains of our eastern brethren, i dont understand what it is that you are trying to dig at?

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  • Slowpoke
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    There were times from 48 cars in the results on Sunday vs. 51 on Saturday, if you check. Some cars were broken by the afternoon, as always. (Wall, wheel bearing, and tranny among the SPDA camp.) Some folks packed up early to have Thanksgiving dinner with their families, so you can opt to have it on a non-Holiday weekend if you prefer.

    Mainly, because there wasn't rain and there were no red flags, things ran faster. And TAC was on the ball calling run groups to the grid in advance. The Presswoods did a good job pushing people on the grid.

    They said at the driver's meeting on Sunday morning that they would try for four sessions, and if they couldn't do it, they would finish at a complete session and then give lapping. Well, the fourth wrapped up around 5pm and there was no lapping. I don't understand the inquiry... Were the Quebec folks complaining to you that there were four sessions on the Sunday? It's not impossible to get four runs on the big track when things run without red flags.

    In 2006 there were 55 cars at Mosport in sunny weather and two red flags (including one of the longest oil clean-ups we've ever had) and TAC managed three complete sessions.

    In 2005 there were 70 cars in sunny weather and a red flag and they managed 3.5 sessions.

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  • bbqman
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    Correct me if I am wrong, I thought I counted only 25 cars on Sunday afternoon. Many of which were getting rerun laps. Why did most people leave before the end of the event?
    Is this why 4 runs were possible instead of 2?

    Again, not looking to blame anybody but if the CSC is to survive into 2008, corrective measures are needed.

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  • Slowpoke
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    Originally posted by shawn cormier View Post
    This might seem petty....... but after paying 350 bucks and driving my butt off to place third in my class I didn't even get a mention let alone a trophy
    I'm pretty sure that I recall them mentioning your name specifically. Top three in each class were mentioned at the driver's meeting and we were told to come up for hats at the end.

    It's no secret what Chuck has mentioned in previous posts about the Keg raffle and such... Solosprint lost money this year. The lack of T-Shirts or a reduced number of trophies was not the fault of the organizing club, it was just not a good year.

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  • pigeon
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    The event was organized well. The run-group issue was my only concern, but considering the amount of things that happened that weekend, everything was handled well. Especially sunday, I was only expecting 2 runs so I was very happy when I realized we were going to be able to squeeze in 4.

    Originally posted by shawn cormier View Post
    This might seem petty....... but after paying 350 bucks and driving my butt off to place third in my class I didn't even get a mention let alone a trophy.(in Quebec we got trophy's but they were blank) I think if we want to attract new participants, We should get something for our accomplishments (and 300 to 350 bucks)for 1st 2nd and 3rd like in all other motorsports....petty maybe but Id like to show something in my old age to my grandchildren.
    My dads a secret fan of your car, whenever I come home he always asks me how the red Trans-am did! He has a red WS6 as well, but his is a 98. I snapped a pic of your car at one of the earlier events and he seen it, and since then he's always been interested in how it does. This time I was able to say you placed 3rd in class, and I even took a video clip of you flying by the pit area to show him

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  • shawn cormier
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    This might seem petty....... but after paying 350 bucks and driving my butt off to place third in my class I didn't even get a mention let alone a trophy.(in Quebec we got trophy's but they were blank) I think if we want to attract new participants, We should get something for our accomplishments (and 300 to 350 bucks)for 1st 2nd and 3rd like in all other motorsports....petty maybe but Id like to show something in my old age to my grandchildren.

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  • jonweir
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    I think the initial organization prior to the event was good. Everything was quite smooth up until the weather got wet. I think some further consideration to run order should have been made before proceeding with the runs after the rain break. Although nobody can predict the weather, I think that it would have been better to allow Z group a run later in the day, just in case the track dried up. Sending them out in the rain immediately after their previous session was also wet didn't even give them a hope of a dry run. I suppose the argument is that nobody knew that the track would dry out later on - and the counterpoint is that we should at least give them a hope. Running later when it may dry up is better than running now when it is wet for sure.

    Anyways, after the fact, there is nothing we can do.

    For next time, can we make it a consideration to prioritize run order so that each run group gets an opportunity for at least one dry run? I think it is desirable both from a scoring perspective and a fun-per-dollar perspective.

    That being said, Sunday ran quite smooth. I was particularly impressed that we got all 4 runs in, the last few sessions ran like clockwork.

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  • bbqman
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    looking back at the 2007 CSC

    I am curious to hear input from observers and participants of this years CSC.
    I am interested in knowing the official number of participants for the event too.
    As an observer ( I showed up at 12pm Sunday) I heard and witnessed all sort of things that I thought couldn't happen.
    Issues dealing with run groups, tech and car classification, rookie drivers at Mosport etc.

    While I heard soley competitor sides of the stories (mainly from Quebec) I am curious to hear all GOOD and BAD issues.

    The reason I ask this is because I probably will volunteer to help organise the 2008 CSC effort and I would like to apply things that went well and avoid things that went wrong.

    This is not a pointing fingers post but moreover a learning process post.

    I have linked this post to the main FSAQ forum to get their input too.

    http://cadl.qc.ca/portail/index.php?...&p=17139#17139

    Thanks
    Last edited by bbqman; 10-13-2007, 05:49 PM. Reason: adding link
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